Author Topic: 3.0 Model differences.  (Read 1001 times)

November 09, 2014, 04:43:57 PM
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Stev0

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What changed from say 2004 to 2009?

When was Si-drive introduced on the 3.0 and does it make such a big difference?

Is the auto box really such a dog?
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December 01, 2014, 04:05:26 PM
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OBone

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Not sure the changes came In drips and drabs. That is why they will query the vin no to source parts. For instance Midas gave me front brakes that did not fit. Agent used the vin no and gave me ones that did. Turn out on my specific model it uses Forester brake pads. Who would have known.

Not sure what Si drive is, I think my 05 model doesn't have it. Otherwise I would have known.

Auto is a bit dull witted. Strong box but slow to react. The engine only really wakes up above 3000rpm and the box does not realise that. In sport mode, however, it is much better

The 3.0 is best described as powerful open road family wagon. Not ideal for fast off the line stuff between traffic lights.
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December 02, 2014, 09:52:04 AM
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SI Drive came in 2007 if I am correct, JP will know for sure.  It definitely makes a difference, throttle response much crisper and car feels livelier. With the SI Drive came paddle shift for the auto box. Not a bad box Steve, can be a little clunky though. The 5 speed 3.0 box was way better than the 4 speed 2.5 box.

December 02, 2014, 12:32:50 PM
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Manfred

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One of these days I will be selling my bike and will be stuck with the Fiesta for a while.


Once I can trade it in, I am looking for a Foz or Outback.


Is there really a major difference between the 3.0 and 3.6?


With regards to the 3.0, anything after 2007 seems the better bet.
I think they would also have the updated front brake discs, 306mm if I remember correctly.
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December 02, 2014, 02:15:46 PM
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Stev0

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3.6 is the newer gen and in which case you MUST GO DIESEL :D
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December 02, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
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Don't really like diesel Steve.


The power difference between a 3.0 and 3.6 is something 10 kw.
Is the newer gen way better than the older one?
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June 26, 2016, 09:32:21 PM
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Stev0

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To answer my own questions... The autobox is actaully very nice. With SI-drive in I mode, the car is obviously lower on power and hangs on to higher gears for far too long. S mode, which is apparently normal for non SI cars is okay. Sport Sharp on the other hand, is a joy. Man does she scream!

Oh and I retract my previous statement between diesel and the 3.6. The 3.6 is much better performing with marginally more fuel- on the 2015+ cars.
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