Author Topic: Need help with Belts on SH XT  (Read 796 times)

May 10, 2017, 07:50:13 AM
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Manfred

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Got a squeal on startup when the car has been standing for a while
Last night I did a belt check.
Redid the power steering / alternator belt.
Then was I pretty confused when the aircon belt had no tensioner.







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May 10, 2017, 07:50:31 AM
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Manfred

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I see that the SH 2.5's use a stretch belt for the aircon belt.
Now replacing this belt requires special tools.
I don't know if this is the case as it was a Gates video that I watched.




Has anyone ever replaced the aircon stretch belt?
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May 10, 2017, 07:53:14 AM
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Manfred

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Seeing as it is a stretch belt and it was replaced at 100 000 km service (Foz now on 125 K), I doubt the squeal comes from there.


This weekend I will take a look at the O ring fix for the power steering.
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May 10, 2017, 08:31:43 AM
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berndp

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I'd like a mechanic like that please
 ;D ;D

I really don't see the benifit in those belts, unless it's the reduced power loss on the (lack of)tensioner pulley.
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May 10, 2017, 08:40:05 AM
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proze

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Has anyone ever replaced the aircon stretch belt?
My Fiesta uses stretch belts for the two accessory belts. I asked the dealer what special tool they use and, please contain your surprise, the service manager said they didn't use any special tool they just lever them on with a screw-driver. :o Anyway, I ordered the tools from eBay and did it myself. It's tricky and it sucks, but that was primarily working in a very tight space.
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May 10, 2017, 10:39:42 AM
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Manfred

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I have a Fiesta 1.0 ecoboost. I know what you mean by tight spaces.

So if I wanted to use 'normal' belts, would I have to buy the whole air-conditioning belt tensioner setup


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May 10, 2017, 03:58:36 PM
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berndp

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May 11, 2017, 07:12:43 AM
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This weekend I will take a look at the O ring fix for the power steering.

I was struggling with this fix. Bought 4 O-rings and every one broke whilst putting it in. I do have a silicone inlet pipe which made it very difficult as it puts a bit of pressure on the fitting. In the end, I went and bought some gasket paper and Bostik Gasket Maker, made up a gasket, spread both sides with a little gasket maker, and haven't looked back since. To me, it was a much easier and reliable option.
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May 11, 2017, 09:46:11 AM
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Manfred

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Where the O-ring should go, I have no idea what it looks like inside.


On the SH, the part connecting the PS pipe to the wherever the O-ring sits is plastic.


Does the O-ring sit inside the other connection?

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May 12, 2017, 06:49:19 AM
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Garrsie

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Where the O-ring should go, I have no idea what it looks like inside.


On the SH, the part connecting the PS pipe to the wherever the O-ring sits is plastic.


Does the O-ring sit inside the other connection?

HM, not sure about the SH but on mine (SG), it's an aluminium fitting like the pic. The O-ring goes around the round protrusion closest to you in the pic. The pump inlet is shaped the same so when you put the piece in the pic in, it clamps the ring down. Hope that makes sense.

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May 12, 2017, 08:16:00 AM
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berndp

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That's the inlt pipe from the bottle?
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May 12, 2017, 12:01:39 PM
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Manfred

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Yes it is Berndp.


Mine looks like this:





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May 23, 2017, 07:16:32 AM
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Francois Breet

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When you do it let me know the O-ring size, mine also started to moan
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May 23, 2017, 08:40:48 AM
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Manfred

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Well the bike took preference this last week or so.




The squealing has now stopped after redoing the PS\Alternator belt.
The power steering still doesn't feel right and is starting to moan when turning.
Might as well do the o-ring and new PS fluid at the same time.




Francois, size of the o-ring is 10 mm x 14 mm x 2 mm
The overseas forums started with 11 mm x 14 mm x 2 mm, but then settled on the 10 mm one.I will buy a few sizes just to make sure.
Also advised to use Viton or Silicone and NOT rubber due to the temperatures.
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May 23, 2017, 10:40:49 AM
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berndp

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I don't think you get an 11x14x2 o-ring.
(ID + Thk+Thk = OD)
11 + 2 + 2 = 15.  ??? not 14
10 + 2 + 2 = 14.
That was when I was in school, some 30 odd years ago. Just checked Google, and it seems my old maths is still ok even today.
 ;D
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