Author Topic: Big Tire Thread  (Read 17853 times)

December 11, 2011, 11:06:11 AM
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Stev0

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Just looking at some tire prices. This will be the obvious upgrade for those who want to be able to keep with the cruisers and the landies.


16inch

225.70.16

Geolander Geo51 H/T  - R1470-00


Pirelli Scorpion ATR R2090


Goodyear Wrangler AT R2160


BF Goodrich AT R2670


15inch ( for the off road freaks)

235.75.15

Sonar S860  - R1120


Nankang Ft7 owl R1470



Maxxis AT700 R1600


Cooper Discoverer AST R1930


Cooper Discoverer  STT R2010


BF Goodrich AT R 2320

BF Goodrich Muds R2950



Quick note

Maxxis 215/75/15 mud terrain is R1420


This looks interesting... however, I would still need to buy 5 rims to fit them.



Btw some eye candy

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December 12, 2011, 09:51:13 AM
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Nice post!

Evrytime I do this comparison the result is still BFG's for the poser value and looks but because of the cost I go back to the Geo ATS.
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December 12, 2011, 10:38:20 AM
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Its a complete tossup for me. The 15inch tires are cheaper as they are more commercial. But why modify your vehicle to compete with the proper 4x4's the forester will never be able to rock crawl with the jeeps as the open diffs suck.

But what makes the foz special is the fuel consumption it delivers and the capability of even a stock std one.

a raised forester on springs, blocks and 70 profile tires will go pretty damn far! I just dont want to get to a point where you over capitalize on a car. I have a mate who bought a disco 1 for like 50k. he has spent another 20k on it in the last couple of months. 20k on a forester will take it pretty far in terms of mods.
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January 05, 2012, 10:41:10 AM
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What is the biggest (highest profile) 17" tyres that will fit on a SG? Anyone tried it?
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January 05, 2012, 10:48:01 AM
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uhm , i think 225/60/17's are the max.
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March 27, 2012, 10:53:19 AM
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Hi guys,
 
I've got a 2007 XT, but would like to do a Namib trip and thought of fitting 16" steel rims from the XS. Would these rims work and what would be the highest profile tires I can fit? Saw the BF's are really tough tires that don't puncture easily... ?
 
Thought it would give bit more ground clearance and can take more punishment than these 17" highway cruisers.
 
Thanks!

March 28, 2012, 10:32:53 PM
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I wouldnt go over 215/65  that would still fit in the spare wheel

I would however fit the Geolander ATS because of tire availability. You will find the yokis easier than the BF in your size on that side of the world.

Whats wrong with your current tires? Do you need new tires?
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April 09, 2012, 11:09:49 PM
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Hi SeanXT

I recently replaced the 4 + 1 oem Yokohama G900s (215/55/17) om my XT with 4 + 1 G051 (HT/S) tyres of size 225/55/17. I spent a week in Nam on a 23000 hectare game farm, driving sand, gravel, railway tracks, etc, and the G051's lived up to my expectation.  No trouble at all. Pulled several Acacia twigs with 2inch thorns from the tire shoulders and none could  penetrate deep enough.

The 225/55/17 size raised my ride hight by +- 4mm, which is significant enough on the Forester, and the benefit is there alright.  Deflating them to .8 bar in sand gave me significant improvements in traction and in this role they're probably no different to a pair of 215/60/16s.

On road performance is also a good 4 out of 5 in my books. Not as grippy as the G900's but more than adequate.

I guess I'm just saying you can keep your 17" rims and still achieve what you're after.

April 12, 2012, 08:05:32 AM
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Overall the higher the sidewall rating the better the tire for off road conditions
Although the 225/55 R17 do work off road they aren’t as good as the 215/60-R16 (although the 225/60-R17 would off course be better than the 216/60-R16)
The increased sidewall vs profile allows the tire to flex more
My brother gave me about a good example recently when they went to Moz
A BMW X5 pitched up and all the other 4x4 guys told him he can forget it and that he will need to get a lift to reach the camp
He then said they have no clue since he had 315/35-R20 and that it would glide over the sand

Half K down the road he was stuck on the first and easiest part of the trip

Then there are the budget considerations too
The 17 inch tires is on average R600+ more per tire
You can get Geolander G012’s A/T  215/65-R16’s for R1440 (G051 is R1370)
You don’t get the G012 for this size but Geolander G051  225/55-R17 is R2080 and that is H/T  compared to the G012 A/T’s

here is the G012


and then the G051


even the tire manufacturers does not believe that tires with that low side wall is worth making in anything better for off road than H/T
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April 12, 2012, 08:56:53 AM
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I think the HT's are pretty good for road and gravel. The 51 is much better than the 900. Looks better too.In terms of grip on tar, they are both the same
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April 13, 2012, 08:21:29 AM
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Have you guys seen the new Velocity Raptor A/T tyres from TWT?
i'm still waiting on a quote from tiger wheel and tyre.

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April 13, 2012, 08:27:54 AM
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Looks pretty interesting.

Is velocity now a sub company of Yoki?
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April 13, 2012, 09:11:13 AM
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Looks good, hope its cheaper.
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April 13, 2012, 09:16:50 AM
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Found this on the Cummunity 4x4 forum:

I have 265/65R17 Velocity Raptors on my Amarok and I am very happy with them. Noisier than the Bridgestone HT's before, but, after 7000km and a wide variety of terrain I am extremely happy and would definitely go with them again. The wet tar grip is excellent.

This tyre uses the tread pattern of the General Grabber and is made for TWT by Continental in PE.
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April 17, 2012, 02:59:21 PM
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what sizes do you get these in though
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