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July 27, 2017, 01:46:14 PM
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jack

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Hi Forum!

Glad to be on here. I'm currently looking to purchase either a 2004 or 2005 Forester XT and I guess I need some direction.

I've always wanted to own one and looking at it now I guess I am hoping to find out what I am letting myself in for.

Any advice on what to check on these cars to make a informed decision when making the choice.

The 2004 has 134 000km on
The 2005 has 176 000km on

Much appreciated!

July 27, 2017, 02:06:02 PM
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Hi Jack

No that is not a Gauteng joke :-)
Best thing you can do is ask the owner if you can get a leakdown test done. Should be about R750. That will tell you if the rings, valve seals, gaskets are OK. Then look at the radiator and put a new one in if it has not been done. They pop at 100km regularly.
You then might want to consider getting a decat and tune if it has not been done. Much safer and nice gains over stock.
The one with less milleage is heading for a 150k service which is not that big a deal, but the other one will need a 200k service which may cost R13-15k if you do it in one smack.

Cars can be heavy on fuel, read 12-14l/100km
Fun to drive though.

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VF48, STi IC, 76mm Bell mouth TNT Free flow, GFB EBC, Coolboost WMI, WHP built and Chett Tuned. Blue Wasabi V3.0

July 27, 2017, 02:29:15 PM
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Are they the same shape, Pre-facelift or facelift?
Cape Town

July 27, 2017, 04:31:10 PM
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Hi Jack

No that is not a Gauteng joke :-)
Best thing you can do is ask the owner if you can get a leakdown test done. Should be about R750. That will tell you if the rings, valve seals, gaskets are OK. Then look at the radiator and put a new one in if it has not been done. They pop at 100km regularly.
You then might want to consider getting a decat and tune if it has not been done. Much safer and nice gains over stock.
The one with less milleage is heading for a 150k service which is not that big a deal, but the other one will need a 200k service which may cost R13-15k if you do it in one smack.

Cars can be heavy on fuel, read 12-14l/100km
Fun to drive though.

Thank you Fozziedriver much appreciated! Will do so

July 27, 2017, 04:32:36 PM
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Are they the same shape, Pre-facelift or facelift?

One is pre facelift the other facelift

July 27, 2017, 08:39:04 PM
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I would opt for the Facelift, purely because:
  • it has plugs-on-coils vs coilpack on the pre-facelift
  • Indicator lights in side mirrors
  • Easier to access air filter
  • Sunroof (don't know if it's std thru the range)
Negatives you may find on the facelift:
  • That stupid raised centre box thingi in place of the swingdown front armrests
  • Headlight's bulbs don't last
  • No improvement on fuel consumption over the pre-facelift  :) :)
  • Same stupid (closed)roof rails

If you can do DIY (and can make some basic "Subaru Special Tools"), the cambelt service is not so hard. You need some angle iron, drilling machine, welder, common sense/logic fopr the SST.
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July 27, 2017, 08:55:30 PM
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Beware of this on the face lifted ones.
They a PITA to remove and fix. I have probably fixed 13 sets in the past 6 months.


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VF48, STi IC, 76mm Bell mouth TNT Free flow, GFB EBC, Coolboost WMI, WHP built and Chett Tuned. Blue Wasabi V3.0

July 28, 2017, 08:49:55 AM
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Thank for the assistance all, much appreciated and all very relevant.

July 28, 2017, 08:50:57 AM
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Beware of this on the face lifted ones.
They a PITA to remove and fix. I have probably fixed 13 sets in the past 6 months.


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Whats the reason for it?

July 28, 2017, 10:12:37 AM
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Life lesson no: 581.00
With every bit of shiny comes some brown stuff.
 ;) ;) ;)

On the F/L (mostly), the headlamp lens "separates" from the reflector body, then water get's in.

Normally you can seperate the 2 items (with a lot of care), and clean, apply new sealer, assemble.

I have not done it on headlights (don't have a FL), but I didi do my one Fog light.

You have to be carefull, and have patience.......
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July 28, 2017, 10:35:01 AM
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I have a 2005 but the pre facelift (better looking in my opinion). There was a power increase with the facelift (155 - 169KW) but I think even my 2005 had improvements over the 2004, I could be wrong. Also there is the fact that the ECU changed from 16 bit to 32 bit.

We get AUS spec
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Forester
Cape Town

July 28, 2017, 02:41:18 PM
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The face lift should also be marginally lighter on fuel, although if you are buying an XT you should not be worrying about the consumption. :o